Video 1: Classroom Management Strategy to Settle Noisy, Rowdy Students at the Door
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This video explains a little-used, often-forgotten but very effective classroom management strategy for taking control of noisy, rowdy groups of students right at the start of lessons. This method is for really tough groups that take ages to settle, cost you a lot of time and cause you a lot of stress and frustration.

You’ll learn WHY some groups take longer than others to settle down and HOW to get them in a state where they are more likely to listen to you so that they enter your classroom on YOUR terms.

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Thoughts? Questions? Please post your comments about this classroom management strategy below if you want to see more…

Talk soon,

Rob Plevin,

Director, Behaviour Needs Ltd

Founder – Lesson-Ology, Behaviour-ology, Student Engagement Formula, Take Control of the Noisy Class, Classroom-expert

Leave A Reply (172 comments so far)

  • Daffodil

    Thanks. You put a tough lesson in a nut shell!

  • Debra Sharpe

    Thank you! I am going to share this videos with the teachers on my team. Where were you when I first started my teaching career?

  • Debra Sharpe

    OOPS! Sorry about the typos on my last comment. How come you never catch them until you hit the post or the send button?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001855528342 Sylvia Jackson

    Thank you for reminding me , good to have a refresher of the things we already know( should know) :) , cheers.

  • Dr. Mac

    Sage advice, Rob. Simple, but essential points explained well. As always, you give us practical, quality material.

  • Radha Krishna Lamichhane

    Got opportunity to listen guru since a long past.I was without any guidance in the absence of Behavioral Need.Good to listen YOU.GREAT!!!!!!!!

  • Priscilla

    Wow, what a good reminder. I have always done this and have always gotten the respect that I’ve wanted. However, I had forgotten that this was a crucial part of gaining control of my students. I just knew that it worked so I repeated it year after year.

    • Caroline

      Excellent advice. Thank you. I appreciate your honesty in the struggles you had when you started in teaching.

  • Kim

    Excellent! Thank you!

  • George

    I loved your 1st video. Thank you.

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  • Peta

    I should use this technique more often with my classes as I am often a substitute teacher. Great reminder! Thank you.

  • John Weldy

    Here’s a tip for you…make the video work on iOS.

    • Rrrob plevin

      Give us a day or two and we’ll get that sorted – good point.

    • Chris

      Hi John.

      Since you asked so nicely :) – this should now work on iOS.

  • Julz

    What a great approach, I hadn’t thought about the benefit of settling the students outside the room.

  • Justyn

    Realistic straightforward and yes it does work. Meet and greet your pupils is sound advice.

  • Teodora

    Thank you for the ideas. Some of them I already use them and it is ok. But Love takes time so….patience

  • Kiki

    Thanks for sharing your experiance !

  • disch

    Always appreciate your insights.

  • sadia

    Very true and explained in a very interesting manner

  • sakander

    I love your 1st video thank you sakander

  • mandy

    Very common sense approach

  • Sylvester P. Mensah

    This is wonderful presentation. I hope it worksfor me. I am really struggling with one of me classes.

  • robin

    too much time setting up the 2 ideas of non-confrontational statements & Informal chitchats. Rather have heard more examples of those two things sooner.

    • Rob

      Oh dear, sorry about that. You probably won’t like the other videos either.

  • Ina

    Very interesting!!! Thanks,I’ll try to apply to my lessons.But I have a very diifficult class(VI Th form),i’ve tried all methods I knew but I didn’t succed.

  • Shari

    Love this. Have an issue in my class that I’m not sure how to sort out in order to implement this: my students are in a self-contained grade 6 and 7 special education class. Many of them are fine with that, however a number, of course the class leaders, are embarrassed to be seen with children who are A) younger and B) what they consider to be the (insert dreaded R-word here) class. Not only will they not stand with the others, they make themselves late in order not to be seen going in by the “regular” kids, and they insist on the door being closed after they enter, so no one who goes by can see. Any advice would be wonderful.

    • Dr. Mac

      Ahh… brings back memories. I would allow those kids to enter the room up to two minutes after the bell, but they must be “hanging out” in the hallways where I can see them from my door. They had to enter as soon as possible after the bell when other kids in the hall would not see them enter my room. I would make sure that no one was socializing/stopping near my room (except my kids), so as to give them the opportunity to enter earlier. This privilege had to be earned… poor behavior the period/day before meant be in the class before the bell. What if they refused to enter on time after a bad behavior day? I told them that I would yell out their name and tell them to come to my class as others were walking by.

      Group behavior also influenced whether my door was open or closed during our class. Poor behavior equals open door.

      While I phrased my ideas in a negative reinforcement manner, please be aware that lots of positive reinforcement for appropriate behavior was given.

      • Shari

        Thanks! I do the “open door” punishment already. In middle school, they enter and exit that door 6 times a day. Challenging!
        Can’t wait for video 3.

  • Tray

    Great presentation. Thank you; please rush more!

  • Donnie Allen

    It is easy to forget what works and fall into negative patterns of response. Thank you for a great reminder.

  • Nandita

    Thanks for sharing these simple ideas with us – its so important to make a connection with the kids we teach.

  • Olga

    Thanks very much! Looking forward to the second video!

  • Melanie

    Great job Rob! So simple.

    • Rob Plevin

      Thanks Melanie. :-)

  • Laetitia

    Thank you ! It makes one want to be your student ! ;-)

  • Wilson

    I was waiting for the sales pitch & it never came! Just FREE shared information. And, very well done I might add!!! Thanks.

    • Rob Plevin

      Thanks Wilson. I’m trying to give as much free content as possible now – I will have to do some sales pitches occasionally – but I’ll try to keep them to a minimum and blance out with 2-3 times as much free content. :-)

  • Aspa

    Quite useful, although too simple and easily applied even with our kids at home. Thanks for sharing!

  • Sheila

    I really can connect with this video – the confrontational teacher you are describing is ME!!! I will try these two ideas ASAP ! On to the next video!

    • Rob Plevin

      That was me too Sheila! The Needs Focused way is soooooo much better. :-) Next video will be up soon.

  • Gulzhana

    Thank you for reminding me about such old but effective ways of controlling any people. I will try to use the rules as often as possible.

  • Ms.Ashwaq

    its really awesome, i will, try to apply it in my class :) , but i have a question could you please provide me with some tips about controlling kids in the age of 4 ? i will be thankful :)

  • Cristina Camacho

    Great! Anything I’ve always got from your websites is useful, practical and clever.

    • Rob Plevin

      Thanks you – we try our best. :-)

  • carolyn

    Useful – reinforced what I generally do, but great to know just how important it is. Looking forward to the next video.

  • Cookie

    Good ideas, which I agree with….. are you doing any on videos on classroom management within the class, would like to see them

  • gary

    Simple but very good presentation. Well done. Pls send in more

    • Rob Plevin

      Coming soon… :-)

  • shelley

    Thank you for this info my class of 10 -11 year old are very noisy and unsettled and i always try to address that in the classroom never thinking of outside .

  • MC

    Everything stated in this video is true and effective! I greet my class at the door and I can oversee their “mood” upon arrival. I’m happy to say I use this stratgey every day to greet my music classes.

  • Aurelija

    thank you! will try it tomorrow!

  • Julie

    Non confrontational statements works, I did it and realized that the other students complied because they wanted the praise as well.

    • Rob Plevin

      Absolutely Julie! :-)

  • Blanca

    thanks for the tips they re very valuable . It was like a fresh reminder

  • louise

    Awesome! Looking forward to watching the whole series!

  • http://twitter.com/4C3d Kevin Hewitson

    Nice to see a “human” approach to working with children. Creating a sense of belonging is vital and part of understanding learning needs. This is a great example of how to develop that sense of belonging with children. The point about being comfortable chatting to children both in school and at the checkout etc is so important, in fact it is vital, in this respect. I believe there are three more learning needs and I will be interested to see if they are also covered in later videos.

    Kev

    • Rob Plevin

      Hi Kev, The learning needs you’re most likely referring to aren’t really dealt with in this video series, however, our sister product – Student Engagement Formula – has some videos which I thionk you will find interesting. The first two videos are here: http://www.lesson-ology.com/blog/video-1/ – and I’ll be putting the third up in about 2 weeks, once we get the Noisy Class videos out of the way…

  • Cheryl

    Good, basic ,practical strategies that would be easy for a teacher new to teaching to implement . Thank you Rob

  • MNB

    Very helpful reminder of things that had slipped out of use. Thanks

  • Marycathrin

    Many thanks for yet another very clear and persuasive video! There are so many things I have learnt over the last few months thanks to you and the fabulous presenters you have invited … hopefully, one day, I’ll get where I need to be so that the students can enjoy learning and can make progress …

  • http://www.facebook.com/beth.komulainen Beth Komulainen

    This certainly works when students are coming together from a special activity back to the classroom. My biggest problem is the start of the day when there is a staggered arrival of busses. Students are entering my 3rd grade classroom over a span of about 10 minutes. Any suggestions for this situation?

    • Rob Plevin

      You need our ‘How to deal with students who arrive late’ strategies. Some are included in this package, some are in our Toolkit: http://www.behaviourneeds.com/products/toolkit You’ll also find some on our blog: http://www.behaviourneeds.com/blog

    • elisa

      ask your collegues who have more hours of teching to change the timetable, moving the english lesson to the 2nd hour? i think this problem should be solved asking the school a better organization =/

  • Lynn

    Very well done…after teaching for 26 years, I totally agree with everything you said. Thanks!

  • vicky

    Hi! It always helps to have great reminders like this! Thank you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/nicolle.regitz Nicolle Regitz

    Great! Too bad that in our school students remain in their classrooms rather than coming into mine. But being non-confrontational, and patient, really works. I use it all the time and get great response. Will watch the 2nd video!

  • Linda

    I’ve been struggling with this year’s class since October. Thanks for the reminder that I need to go back to that personal greeting at the door. I realized that I have been ignoring it because I felt I needed those few extra moments to finish something before the students came into the room. Starting tomorrow I’m returning to what worked in the past.

  • elisa

    thank you! you consider something some teachers forget, that is the psychological reason for some kinds of behaviour. that’s the point, I think. grazie!!!

  • Jacquilyn

    I love working from a happy and positive perspective, no matter with whom I am working. I agree that it models not only my expectations, but it’s going to be an enjoyable time for all. Thanks so much.

  • Cathy

    Thank you for sharing. I will definitely share this information with my classmates in the Teachers Education Program, University of Ottawa, Canada. We are due for our next practicum in April and I am sure this strategy will come in handy :)

  • Eunice

    Thank you so much for the vdeo,i have been experiencing this kind of problem, where in class the kids don’t listen to me, I totaly don’t have control over the majority of the class. I definately want to listen to the next video because to me the first video is like being in a dark Cave and have been shown the bright light on how to get out of the cave. I totaly want to get out of the dark cave. Thank you again.

  • sherine helal

    wonderful tips

  • Natasha Grydasova

    Rob, thank you very much for sharing your experience and reminding of these simple but effective things to do. Students’ behaviour (or actually my inability to control it) is so frustrating that at times it feels that nothing can help. Thank you for helping me to be in more control.

    • rob

      No problem Natasha :-)

  • Robin

    Thanks Rob, a great refresher! Looking forward to viewing your other videos as well.

    • rob

      Cheers Robin – video 2 is up now

  • ellen

    Thank you for sharing this. It is really helpful. I will try it in the beginning of this school year:)

    • rob

      Good stuff i hope you find it useful

  • George Papavasileiou

    Thank for sharing. Really useful!

    • rob

      My pleasure

  • Tina

    It’s a really good video. My and my partner will follow your great ideas! Thanks a lot! By the way, the picture you drew was cute. :)

    • rob

      Thanks Tina :-)

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  • ReGina

    Thank you I will share with my coworkers.

    • rob

      Thank you! :-)

  • Cynamin

    I think you did a great job!! I teach kindergarten and think this will be great as we are coming back into PE/Music at the beginning of the day. They are already in my classroom when I get to school though. Very simple and looking forward to the next video. I agree, we sometimes get so caught up in the negative and forget to look for the positive. Especially when we have big behavior issues in our classroom.:)

    • Rob Plevin

      Cheers Cynamin. Next video coming soon.

  • Leonor lake

    Thanks, Rob! I’ve instinctively done some of the strategies you suggested but not with the same finesse and thoroughness. Having learned your simple but smart strategies and the planning that comes with them, I can now put more structure to what I do and, hopefully, become more effective. I’ll share this with other teachers. Most generous, you are :-)

    • Rob Plevin

      Finesse? Me? Really? Why thank you! :-)

  • norma g.

    This hallway strategy is a must for every class coming into the room throughout the day! Young students must be aware of their purpose for learning before walking in! Your examples of non-confrontational conversations made it real and easily applicable. Having a friendly approached to those few who have not settle as quick as the rest shows all the level of respect that is expected and demonstrated. Thanks a bunch for your genuine approach! So helpful!!

    • Rob Plevin

      Always a pleasure Norma. :-)

  • Angela Wilson

    Many thanks. I will share this video with my students.

    • Rob Plevin

      Thank s Angela x

  • Bella

    Thanks, it’s very interesting and sounds very reasonable, though not everything can be applied in my school.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sharlenea Sharlene Asendio

    I’ve been in the educational field for over 40 years and always had great classroom management. A treat to see and hear someone else give GREAT advise to those who haven’t yet mastered the skills of classroom management.

    • Rob Plevin

      Thank you so much Sharlene – very kind. :-)

  • stu

    Really useful advice –off to buy some gangster rapping LPs

    • Rob Plevin

      :-)

  • Laura Raiman

    Sir, might you be Irish? I teach American English to children from all over the world in an elementary school near Atlanta, Georgia. We also have teachers from all over the world and we learn different strategies from them, as I have from you. I will try what you suggested. Our principal has always asked us to meet students at the door to make connections with them and settle them down to learn. We also monitor the hallls to prevent misbehavior (U.S. spelling) there.
    Thanks,
    Laura

    • rob

      No, I’m not Irish but I do like the Irish accent. Wasn’t aware I had one though!

  • Shahid Mehmood

    That was really valuable to a long term teacher do you have any suggestions for a supply teacher with regards to behaviour management, thanks

    • rob

      The same general procedure can and should be used by supply teachers – greeting at the door and getting to know the students is perhaps even more important when you don’t teach them regularly.

  • Katie

    It’s inspiration

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  • Nusrath Fatima

    I want to download it. how can I?

  • Gergana Gerova

    It’s all about psychology after all…Well, I definitely liked it, though two questions sprang to my mind right away. This approach is great with a group of students you have worked with for some time and you know well enough, as you are aware of their interests and preferences. What would you do if you knew that this group will cause you problems with discipline and you had to teach them for the first time? So, you can’t address them by name, you don’t know what they like. And the second question is how do you proceed if it is you who should enter their classroom, because at some schools groups of students occupy their own room, take care of it, decorate it, etc., and it’s the teachers who sort of visit to teach them for a period. It is because otherwise students waste too much time moving from room to room for every class, and they only have 10-minute breaks between periods.

    • Rob

      Hi, I’ve answered the second question elsewhere in this discussion. Basically, you would go through a similar ‘gradual settling’ phase by talking to them at their desks. If they don’t settle you would then direct them to line up outside the room. The first question takes more explaining – supply/substitute teachers need a range of strategies for dealing with ‘new’ groups and a big part of succeeding in this situation is to have some attractive activities up your sleeve together with a clear discipline plan, some time spent ‘getting to know them’ and, above all, a friendly yet authoritative attitude. This is explained in the full pack.

  • Philip Rozario

    Very many thanks. I have given myself trouble by letting kids into the room in a restless state with inevitable waste of teaching time. Your advice on calming them down in a positive, non-confrontational way and building rapport is very timely. Many thanks for all these really helpful life-savers!

    Philip

  • Cay Galloway

    Excellent ideas. Love the concepts. I love the idea of giving the students a physical task to do to see who will follow directions and then using this activity to seat them accordingly. This is much quicker than putting them in alphabetical order and waiting to see who the behavior problems are. I won’t be able to do this in the hall, but I will find a way to use these

  • HTMS110

    It feels like you’ve been standing outside my classroom…Great strategies offered here! I will begin using them immediately! What is the best approach for getting admin and security on board with these ideas? Our school’s policy is to “get in a classroom!” We need to change that to “Please line up outside your classroom.” It does indeed take a village… Thanks again for the strategies.

  • Tanya

    Thank you for the reminders of positive statements. We use CHAMPs as a school wide behavior program and I had forgotten that the positive statements still have and need to be in place for success of any behavior plan. Thank you again.

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  • Antoinette

    Wonderful Presentation. A nice gentle reminder of the little things we can do to manage our big problems. Thanks Rob.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mona.rb.7 Mona Rb

    thanks very much.

  • Dean

    Brilliant, I’ll try it out.

  • Marta

    I really enjoyed watching your classroom management video. I am ready to try your tips tomorrow. I think that stating the positive and have them realize that you care about things they care as well, opens a line of communication in a common ground setting. Thank you for the great advice!

  • Neeta Dua

    Simple and effective , thanks.

  • Liz

    Clear and simple reminder of settling techniques. Our Senior Leadership Team requires all junior classes to line up before entering a classroom so making it a school-wide expectation does help.

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.heenan.3 Linda Heenan

    Very helpful advice.

  • Yemi

    This is fantastic. I’m learning!!!!!

  • Maxine3416

    Excellent tips. My problem is working with 16-19 year olds who don’t want to be treated like children but who still show the same problems. Students just enter when they arrive and that can be before me because of time tabling

  • Ally

    So helpful! Thank you!!

  • Romy Heyser

    What a simple and positive way to share valuable tools and techniques that work for any age group! Thank you

  • Jane

    Jane
    Wonderful straightforward ideas I will keep watching and learning!

  • bev

    I’ve used this strategy and does work.

    Thanks

  • Teach

    Good work.

  • Patty Romero

    Excellent. Thanks Rob, I thought I had lost the touch
    with the little ones. I have started to work with elementary after years of
    teaching English to adults, but you gave me back hope. Wishing it will work
    soon and easy.

  • sabreena

    Thanks for sharing your experiences . I hope that I can use your methods on my EFL students .

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  • Mary

    Well done! Being so positive is a magnet for respect…and gets their attention. Saying what you want will get them zoned in. You inspire me!

  • Joanna Roper

    Very helpful, thanks. Now to think of ways to apply these principles when you are a specialist teacher entering the classroom for one period a week.

  • Hanli

    Awesome advice!!! Thank you soooo much

    • bnRobP

      Pleasure :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/vincent.bovill Vincent Bovill

    Yep… a nice big dose of common sense!

    • bnRobP

      Sometimes we forget how effective the simple things are. :-)

  • Greek Digger

    I was surprised how effective the stopping at the door turned out to be They were flabbergasted and I felt really powerful as to ‘it s my classroom and there my values rule’ Have been teaching almost 25 years now It was like a first time perfect lesson.

    • bnRobP

      Brilliant. :-)

  • Jen R

    Great strategy, but how do you use this in a high school setting when several of your nosiest and most disruptive students also come in 10 – 15 minutes late?

    • bnRobP

      Hi Jen, For those students you must have a system in place. I suggest being prepared with work and/or a place to direct them to when the eventually arrive. DON’T try to deal with them when they come in, that will only servie to disrupt your lesson (which is, after-all, part of their intention). Instead, simply direct them in a matter-of-fact, calm tone to an isolated seat (away from their firends) and have for work for them to get on with which doesn’t require too much explaining. The time to address their lateness is after the lesson. I explain this in detail in the Two Minute Follow-Up and the Ten Minute Detention – both these strategies are in the full program.

      • Rekha

        How do I get the access to see Two Minute FollowUp and Ten Minute Detention?

  • Venessa

    Great forgotten strategy. Chit chat with students is crucial…

  • Ahmed

    Some very practical advice n good practice. I’ll be trying this..get back to you soon. Regards, Ahmed

  • http://www.facebook.com/jill.natsheh Jill Natsheh

    Excellent! Informative and effective!

  • ghaleb

    Excellent and fruitful

  • http://www.facebook.com/kim.heath3 Kim Heath

    Great advice! Thank you!

  • missfrinty

    Clear, practical advice. Am a houseparent, so will try and use the strategies in the boarding house too. Have got myself into rather a negative rut so good to have a reminder about positive reinforcement. Thanks!

  • Deb

    As teachers, we should all model the idea of being a “lifelong learner”. At 57, I accept that I have plenty to learn. These tips and hints are put in a really clear, accessible fashion. As coordinator of student teachers in my school, I will be recommending that the teachers in training that I deal with should have a look at these videos.

  • Sergio

    Outstanding presentation :) I have used these strategies and work like magic! First, using non- confrontantional statements is the art of daring to be positive in a very negative world … You, as the teacher, are giving students reasons to respect you. Second, informal chit chat is the art of connecting with students and being comfortable around them:) … These are two winning strategies … they work everytime. Thanks Rob :)

  • Richard 01

    I
    bought these resources two or three years ago and had reason to review
    them after a couple of challenging relief days. I am very pleased with
    all the ideas. Am I still registered to access the full program?
    I have no idea of my user name or password

  • Kathy

    Love the way you started saying you had problems at first and anyone can learn. Love your perspective too – give lots of praise to kids that are following directions and give more attention to kids that act up, knowing they need help. Lots of smart tips. Thanks so much!

  • sandraboffi

    Thank you!!!Great tips and reminders!!

  • Elsie

    Such an easy fix!

  • Ian

    Can’t wait until I next teach now. Sometimes the reasons for the misbehaviour are so simple that you forget!! Thanks a million

  • Mel

    This is a great reminder that common sense is relevant when working with students. I have seen this work beautifully in many schools. Having a caring heart is essential.

  • scigal

    I am a “seasoned” science teacher with over 20 years experience. By trial and error have been using these techniques with middle school children. They ABSOLUTELY work. I also use paper coupons randomly to silently award students who are seated with their homework out and planner opened prior to the bell.
    Chit chatting or whatever you want to call it helps strengthen relationships with students especially during their lunch periods and occasionally after school.. Attending their sporting practices/games, musical/acting performances, etc. shows students that you care. I remember reading a survey which asked middle school students what traits their favorite teachers possessed. Number one on the list was ‘they cared about me.’ I will never forget that survey. Respect comes from earning it – not demanding it.

  • fay

    Thank you. Inspiring to find people like you who care for quality learning everywhere.

  • misslinda

    thanks for sharing
    good ideas..
    for outside the class to begin!!

  • Bob V

    Wonderful to see the ideas that have been so successful for me over many years being shared. An additional tip. With a really difficult group be at the door before they are. This allows you and the first couple of students to set the tone using Rob’s ideas and as the others arrive they tend to join in and settle quickly

  • léa

    As a newly qualified teacher, I still find it quite difficult to find way with behaviour management and difficult classes. Thanks very much for these videos, I will try them on monday with two of my classes… :)

  • Eliot Miller

    Really great advice! Makes me feel like I can go back to school tomorrow.

    But please please PLEASE do one for schools were the TEACHER’S move from class to class, like in China.

  • Jesy

    Great ideas, I would like to put into practise

  • J

    Thank you for stating the odvious! I don’t listen to people if they shout at me!

  • Jennifer Flowers

    I am a teacher for an afterschool program at an elementary school. I have the 3rd graders on a daily basis. They are great at times but other times they just don’t listen. It’s almost like they look at me like I’m just their big sister. I want them to like me but I also want them to respect me more. I am looking for any advice because alot of managers and such are coming in soon to review us and I don’t want to be known as the teacher that can’t get her classroom managed. Another thing we are always in the cafeteria. I teach a music class and it is in a classroom and I see such a difference but so hard to get kids interested in Ferde Grofe an american composer. Like I said any advice would help :)

  • Barb

    I really like how he empowered the teacher before the students entered the class.

  • Andy Abele

    Great to see such good advice. Brilliant! :-)

  • Michelle B.

    I am going to try this with one of my classes tomorrow! My Intern and I were talking about how hard of a time we both had with them today, and you may have just explained why. Thanks!

  • Maryann Hasso M Ed

    THANK YOU!

  • Ruth

    Thanks for such a discussion. It is helping me out to know what to do and say when I see the students are getting a little out of control. Just because I have been hired for high school as per maternity leave position. I am a kind of nervous a little bit since it has been two years that I did not teach and not high school. I went last week to visit the teacher last wk to get to know the students and I want to know what to say. My main problem as many other teacher is classroom management and these advices are perfect. Thanks a lot for all the good advice and great material that you have for us.

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